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Episode 58

Learning Cybersecurity From Unconventional Methods | Zlatko Unger, Head of Security & Privacy at Alation

In this episode of CISO Insiders, we welcome Zlatko Unger, Head of Security & Privacy at Alation, for an exciting and eye-level conversation about her journey into cybersecurity, advice for young cybersecurity professionals just starting out, and how the industry will evolve in 2022 and beyond.


00:36 Guest Introduction and professional journey

02:30 Icebreakers

04:25 The importance of having interactions with professional individuals in your domain.

08:28 Learning cybersecurity from social media platforms like Twitter and Reddit.

11:07 The single biggest failure and key takeaway from that journey.

14:05 Biggest professional accomplishment.

15:10 Advice for someone who’s getting started in a cybersecurity career.

16:33 Pros and cons of CISO reporting to IT department.

20:30 The best learning resources one can use to move forward in the industry.

22:30 Debunking one common myth about cybersecurity.

24:20 What are the main concerns CISOs nowadays have?

30:40 How the role of the CISO is evolving?

42:08 What should cybersecurity vendors stop doing?

43:10 Closing comments


Podcast highlights:

What’s the one thing you wished you knew before you started your journey?

  • When you’re starting your career in the cybersecurity domain, there are so many factors involved that you wish you knew before you started your journey. One of those is having more interactions with the individuals that are in your domain that can show you what’s on the other side of the curtain and who can give you clarity into the sort of works that you will be doing. It is very important to connect with people who have walked the walk before.

What are the main concerns CISOs nowadays have?

  • Every CISO I talk to has ransomware buried somewhere in their mind as a concern. It doesn’t matter what’s the size of the organization and which system they use, the problem of ransomware is still unresolved.

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About the Podcast

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Ben Ben-Aderet

Visionary entrepreneur, innovative founder, and CEO with 20 years of extensive experience in the InfoSec space, leading, enabling and increasing growth in global businesses, and helping customers achieve their information security goals. My company, GRSee Consulting, is a private international consulting firm staffed by a dedicated team of security experts committed to safeguarding its customers’ data.

WHAT I DO: I help businesses worldwide achieve their information security goals. Throughout my lengthy career in the InfoSec industry, I have worked closely with many major financial, governmental, defense, and telecom organizations in Israel and overseas. Today, as CEO and co-founder of GRSee Consulting, I ensure we provide the best, most advanced information security services over and above the conventional industry standard. GRSee Consulting offers full consultancy services, including PCI certification and compliance, penetration testing, risk management, software and infrastructure security, and much more.

WHO I WORK WITH: We partner with businesses and organizations from various sectors all over the world that value comprehensive, tried-and-tested information security services.

WHY IT WORKS: In the sophisticated, constantly-evolving world of data security, flexibility has never been so important. GRSee Consulting's dynamic approach provides a rapid response alongside full compliance, ensuring your peace of mind while eliminating the burden of unnecessary bureaucracy. We enable you to provide secure services and reduce your exposure to data security and non-compliance risks, leaving your business free to grow.

WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT: GRSee Consulting delivers a comprehensive service portfolio for all your information security needs, ensuring full synergy between all our solutions. As an international company based in Israel, we are also able to offer much more competitive pricing while still providing local support via our partner in NYC.

HOW IT WORKS: We sit down with you to discuss your precise requirements and tailor our extensive portfolio to suit your business goals. GRSee Consulting is committed to providing professional, timely, and efficient service throughout the entire information security lifecycle.

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